tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207151973516791498.post8787178341068621899..comments2023-06-04T08:18:25.950-07:00Comments on Contrary To Popular Belief: The Lord's Boot CampJasonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17758051038511331313noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207151973516791498.post-3767474816099039902016-09-28T04:46:48.242-07:002016-09-28T04:46:48.242-07:00Hi Jason. I know this blog is 8 years old, but ho...Hi Jason. I know this blog is 8 years old, but hope you are still out there to answer some questions. This is what you cite as being your reasons:<br /><br />QUOTE: "God certainly worked through Teen Missions in my life as I'm sure he does every summer in other teenagers' lives (I believe Bob Bland when he says that they're more interested in the impact the experience has on the kids than in the impact the kids have on the people they're ministering to). Teen Missions is though incredibly Fundamentalist - as a born, raised, and still practicing Presbyterian, I don't have any experience that matches it (not even Moody). I don't know what strain of Fundamentalism it is. That's why I don't recommend it - my theology, particularly my concepts of mission and evangelism, are nowhere near in line with Teen Missions anymore (if they ever truly were...I think they were). Yes, God can and does work through organizations like Teen Missions, but I think we can do better."<br /><br />1) Your assertions of why you recommend it is based on you being a Presbyterian and how you did not match the same theology, particular to missions and evangelism. How about a little more detail of what you think and how they fell short?<br /><br />2) TMI has a profession of faith on their website and I am sure was publicized even before the advent of the internet. Did they somehow violate or not live up to their profession of faith and if so, how?<br /><br />3) Is it possible that the problem is with you and denominational religion? When I read the TMI profession of faith they state they leave potentially divisional matters such as eternal security and spiritual gifts to be taught or refrained by our respective churches. This alone indicates to me that at the core of its declarations that it seeks unity and not division. Was the actions you observed somehow contrary to this declaration.<br /><br />In general, your argument makes assertions without substance. Please help me understand. Your time in the field; Did you see lives change in both the missionary and those being ministered? You admit that GOd works through organizations like TMI, but because they are conceptually different than your dogma they somehow are not worthy or less than and we can do better. <br /><br />As it is written the body of Christ as many parts and many functions. I went to a Via De Christo weekend once. It changed my life. I thought wow, being hosted by the Methodist, who I think are dry as sawdust, and all of this other denominational, dogmatic crap that does nothing but cause division among the brethren, all of which were stuffed into the ground and shown to me to be petty thoughts I held as I experienced some of the greatest love ever. <br /><br />Actions speak louder than words. If Mr. Bland truly did say what you quoted him on then maybe he had a reason for his thoughts, ever ask him. Maybe it is because he realizes his mission is to prepare the missionary and that none of us win anyone to Christ that it is the Holy Spirit, we are a mere conduit of obedience that gets to share in the helps, service and sometime awesome conversion or deliverance events that follow, as the lamp stand as the witness.<br /><br />Please provide more insight. I want to be able to approach this organization with a clear understanding to possibly align with them on other matters. It would be doing me and those I serve a great service if you could get into the details more if you can. Thank you. Peace, joy and love to you to day and everyday.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207151973516791498.post-26511745853840705752008-04-15T15:03:00.000-07:002008-04-15T15:03:00.000-07:00Nice review. I'm a TMI alum (Scotland, Glasgow, ev...Nice review. I'm a TMI alum (Scotland, Glasgow, evangelistic 1981) and posted a similar review (http://bobkaylor.typepad.com). You nailed the paradox of the experience. Still, I became a United Methodist pastor years later and the TMI experience had something to do with that. God works in mysterious ways...Bob Kaylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08281137101809291334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4207151973516791498.post-45821091004004014062008-04-13T11:39:00.000-07:002008-04-13T11:39:00.000-07:00Kudos to a wonderful review of a somewhat controve...Kudos to a wonderful review of a somewhat controversial documentary. I'm still not sure exactly what I think about the piece myself, but there was definitely some good in there. I do have to admit that the first couple of minutes - when they focused on Boot Camp itself - did give me the heebie-jeebies.<BR/><BR/>Regardless, TMI will always be a part of my life as well, and there's much to be grateful for. <BR/><BR/>Thanks, my friend!Jaimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03502743932051525961noreply@blogger.com